If you don't know Dan, he exploded onto the copywriting scene, writing several big-money controls for monster companies like Motley Fool, earning him praise from many legendary copywriters, including the man himself Gary Bencivenga.
"Let me start with one of my frameworks," Dan said. "When it comes to developing big marketing ideas, I start by asking myself am I going in or am I going out."
"In would be, is there something in the product or the product creator's story, like in the offer which could be encapsulated into a big idea. Out would be like a macro story from the outside world," Dan continued.
He went on to explain how the decision of whether to go in or out for the big marketing idea is driven by what his research process exposes.
In other words, sometimes the research shows there's an opportunity for the big marketing idea to come from in (i.e. the product or the product's creator), sometimes the research shows there's an opportunity for the big marketing idea to come from out (i.e. something happening in the world).
Dan went on to give several examples of how he's done this in the supplement space, the financial space, and even the real estate space.
"But, how do you ultimately decide, though, whether to go in or out for a big marketing idea?" I asked Dan.